Great. I just connected as well. Let me know when we can test it out and see if this will solve the problem. As I have said, I am usually available between Monday and Thursday from 8am till 8 pm CT and more limited availability on Friday night and weekends.
Jim and I tested it and it worked with Jim hosting.
Thanks to the Commish for helping this IT challenged owner. Perhaps the remaining two owners could go through the same process with the Commish then we could all host ??
in the event both cannot host and someone is forced to get a sub, shouldn't the aggrieved party be allowed to choose who they would like to substitute coach(if available) for them?
in the event both cannot host and someone is forced to get a sub, shouldn't the aggrieved party be allowed to choose who they would like to substitute coach(if available) for them?
Who determines who the "aggrieved party" is? I want it as simple as possible for the Home and Away to know what to do in this situation so that I do not need to spend time as referee. That is why the proposed rule is written the way it is to handle this situation: "15.4 – The HOME team is obligated to host the game. If the home team cannot host a game and the away team can host, then the away team is obligated to host. If neither the home nor the away team can host a game, then Home team loses its right to control which team must use a substitute coach and the AWAY should request a substitute coach for the Home team. Why does the home team lose control in this situation? To motivate the home to make the necessary changes to be able to host a game."
Thanks to the Commish for helping this IT challenged owner. Perhaps the remaining two owners could go through the same process with the Commish then we could all host ??
Jim is now able to host using the KRFL Hamachi channel after he made some change (perhaps temporarily turning off? He knows the details) to his anti-virus program. So others who cannot host may wish to try that.
With the cessation of the discussion, this change will be implemented next season. The full text of the rule is:
15.0 – RULES FOR SCHEDULING GAMES & REQUESTING A SUBSTITUTE COACH The KRFL week runs from Wednesday to Tuesday with league files distributed on Tuesday evening.
15.1 – No later than 10pm Eastern on Thursday of each week the HOME team is required to submit to the AWAY team’s coach a list of dates and times that he will be available to play the game to allow for the submitting of the game files to the Commissioner by the deadline. This list should include AT LEAST THREE available times the home team owner could play the game. Please be as accommodating as possible, considering time differences between the two teams. The Home team should email the Away team at least twice if no response is received to his first email. If the Home team does not submit a list of dates and times by 10pm Eastern Thursday, then the Away team can request a substitute coach for the Home team.
15.2 – No later than Friday at 10pm Eastern, the AWAY team is required to send the HOME team a response to the Home team's available times, either by agreeing to a time the Home team has proposed or by replying with a list of days and times the Away team is available. Again, please be as accommodating as possible considering time differences. If the Away team does not respond to the Home team by 10pm Eastern on Friday, then the Home team can request a substitute coach for the Away team
15.3 - If by 10pm Eastern Saturday, the two teams cannot agree upon a time for the game to be played, then the HOME team takes precedence over the Away team and the Home team should request a substitute coach for the Away team.
15.4 – The HOME team is obligated to host the game. If the home team cannot host a game and the away team can host, then the away team is obligated to host. If neither the home nor the away team can host a game, then Home team loses its right to control which team must use a substitute coach and the AWAY should request a substitute coach for the Home team. Why does the home team lose control in this situation? To motivate the home to make the necessary changes to be able to host a game.
15.5 - If two teams have an agreed upon time of game that has been confirmed by both, and for any reason either team cannot keep that time, then the team that was available at the original game time has precedence for all further times for that game. For example, Tampa Bay and Rolling Green have a confirmed time of game, but Rolling Green, being the home team, cannot keep the originally scheduled time for any reason. Then the availability of the visiting team (in this case Tampa Bay) takes precedence if the two teams cannot agree on a time to reschedule the game and Tampa Bay can request a substitute coach for Rolling Green.
15.6 - Any team that is stood up for an agreed upon and confirmed game time for any reason has the option of requesting a sub for that game after 30 minutes past the scheduled game time have elapsed (subject of course, to having proof of a confirmed scheduled game time that can be forwarded to the Commissioner). The offending team will be subject to penalties per this section.
15.7 - All games must be scheduled each week for a start time of no later than 6:00 P.M. Eastern time Tuesday. This is to allow enough time for the playing and reporting of the game by the 10 P.M. Eastern deadline.
15.8 - Seeking a Substitute If a member needs to request a substitute coach for his opponent as a result of one of this section, he can seek a substitute by posting on the league website or by posting an email via the KRFL Google group, or preferably both. This leaves a public record available to the Commissioner in case of disputes. Requests should include a range of a possible game times. If a member seeking a substitute gets multiple offers to sub, they should sort volunteers accordingly: a. First choice should be a player from another conference. b. Second choice should be a player from another division in the same conference. c. Last choice should be a player from the same division.
15.9 - Getting Credit for playing as a Substitute To gain credit for playing as a substitute coach, a member should post in the appropriate forum on the website. Due date is the same as the deadline for submitting game files. The website forum will serve as a means of tabulating both non-participation and volunteer subbing.
15.10 - Penalties for non-participation. These penalties are cumulative:
If a member uses a substitute coach for three games, the team will lose its 5th round rookie pick in the following Rookie Draft and incur a $.5 million salary cap penalty in the following season.
If a member uses a substitute coach for four games, the team will also lose its 4th round rookie pick in the following Rookie Draft and incur another $.5 million salary cap fine in the following season.
If a member uses a substitute coach for five games, the team will also lose its 3rd round rookie pick in the following Rookie Draft and incur another $1 million salary cap fine in the following season.
If a member uses a substitute coach for six games, the team will also lose its 2nd round rookie pick in the following Rookie Draft and incur another $1 million salary cap fine in the following season.
If a member uses a substitute coach for seven games, the team will also lose its 1st round rookie pick in the following Rookie Draft and incur another $2 million salary cap fine in the following season..
If a team uses a substitute coach for eight or more games, the member will dropped from the league.
15.10a - If you do not have the rookie pick to lose (because it was previously traded), you will lose the next best pick (e.g., if you should lose your fifth rounder, but don't have a fifth rounder, you lose your fourth instead). If you have two picks in a given round, you will lose the lesser of the two in that round (e.g., if you have the 3rd and 15th pick in the fourth round and the penalty is loss of a fourth round rookie pick, you lose the 15th pick).In the event a member has insufficient draft picks to forfeit pursuant to this rule, and additional $1.0 million salary cap fine per pick will be incurred in the following season.
15.11 - Rewards for Volunteer Substitute Coaches. For each game a member acts as a substitute coach, the member will receive one “credit” which can be used one of two ways, or both if a member has earned multiple credits. 15.11a – A member may use a credit against any game the team was assessed a penalty for in section 15.10 15.11b – A member may use a credit towards the annual lottery for an additional Rookie Draft pick. 15.11c – A member who acted as a substitute coach for more than one game and therefore earned more than one credit, can use credits under both 15.11a and 15.11b 15.12d - After the conclusion of the season, the Commissioner will request that each coach who earned a credit to choose between a credit against any game missed in rule 15.10 or a credit in the Rookie Draft pick lottery for each credit the member has earned. 15.12e - For the members choosing the Rookie Draft lottery credit, after the conclusion of the season and before the rookie draft, the commissioner will hold a lottery. Credits earned will be entered into a random lottery to distribute rookie draft choices given up by teams penalized for non-participation in rule 15.10. Rookie draft choices given up by a previous owner through penalty will be retained by the new owner but will be added as supplemental picks in each applicable draft round for the purpose of the non-participation lottery. Example: A number two pick in the second round (draft choice 2.2) forfeited by a previous owner will be retained by the new owner. The penalized pick will be added to the end of the round as pick 2.25. If no rookie draft picks were forfeited, the league will award a supplemental 5th round rookie draft pick, the final pick of the 5th round, using the process described above (this pick is not tradable).
15.12 - Guidelines for Substitutes. Substitutes are expected to play as if they were the team owner, taking into consideration reasonable usage of personnel and giving a full effort to win, substitutes who violate the standards of good sportsmanship and the trust they have acting as temporary caretakers of a team will be subject to penalty determined by the Commissioner that may include loss of future salary funds and/or rookie draft choices.
